Society and Human Consciousness by Jiddu Krishnamurti
[The relationship between conditioned minds]
I have long been gripped by a particular piece of audio used in the opening few minutes of Trance-Formation by Max Igan and for a long while I was unaware to whom it belonged to, however after digging deep I discovered they are the words of Jiddu Krishnamurti – a philosopher, a spiritual speaker, and a reluctant messiah. The following entry is an interpretation of Krishnamurti’s words and an earlier piece of writing on the same subject, the two pieces are wonderfully complimentary of Society as a System, and The System as an analogy of Society.
We have created this society…
An immoral destructive civilised society to which we are responsible.
We have surrendered our fundamental selves to the building of a system that ultimately recognises a society not of individuals but of personalities, of ranks and status.
We are trapped by this society, this system of apathy and suffering. We are conditioned (which is to say that we have inherited a conditioning) to which we no longer think outside of ourselves, our needs and wants, we cannot see beyond society and its influences.
Some have fought against this conditioning.
People have tried to cause change. Groups, sects, cells, whatever they have identified themselves as, they have formed together to cause change.
Change in politics, change in government, change in territory or in wealth and power.
To change society…
But society is the relationship between people. And that is the problem, that is the crisis…
It is not a political crisis, or economic crisis, or a crisis of war…the crisis is with ourselves, it is an internal crisis.
The great struggle is not between nations but between individuals and themselves, their perceived selves, their I. We cannot change society but we can change our conditioned minds, each of us.
The only way to change the System / Society is simply by becoming fundamentally aware of ourselves, by understanding ourselves, by weakening our conciousness beyond the thinking mind – and this follows nicely onto a previous post: I Am Nothing, which describes the journey of this awakening, and was inspired by another spiritual speaker, author and teacher Eckhart Tolle.
The following is the opening words to one of Krishnamurti’s lessons, of which are the inspiration to the above writings and mentioned content.
There is no beating it.
It will continue to be long after we are gone.
But we can stand outside it.
We can choose to see it, and by seeing it we can withdraw from it, learn not to be influenced by it, and with help we can separate ourselves from it.
But time’s hidden hand comes into play when we least expect it, this vision becomes weakened as life gets in the way, and slowly we become integrated into the thing we have long protested.
To many this process is transparent, and to many it appears as something positive, something to aspire to.
Often it is wrapped in false progression, a promotion at work or the promise of more money, more responsibility, and in time we become an advocate of the system.
Some are so hopelessly blinded by it that they actually believe they are doing good, but in the same breath manipulate and recruit others into forgetting their own values.
Status becomes the poisoned apple of choice – and they soon become entirely lost.
However there are those who remain resilient, often rejected poorly paid and with personality disorders, they may be among the homeless, the depressed, or the drug dependants, but they have withstood the system.
You see none of us are born into the system.
We are not imprisoned by the system, we walk into it with smiles and open doors, we build our own bars and gladly throw away the keys.
It is becoming apparent that my journey into Beyond The Thinking Mind, Zen, and many of my spiritual wanderings and philosophical questions are all connected, and indeed at the heart of all is human nature, the mind and I. And so many of these posts will start to form a connected web featuring references from and links to other existing posts.